Interview with Fernando Lugo, President of Paraguay
By Ana Revuelta and Mike Sidwell
Translation by Gypsy Guillén Kaiser
Transparency Watch
Interview with Paraguayan President Fernando Lugo
By Ana Revuelta and Mike Sidwell, Translation by Gypsy Guillén Kaiser
| Fernando Lugo was sworn in as Paraguay’s president on 15 August, ending 61 years of conservative rule. The left-leaning former bishop achieved 41 per cent of the vote in Paraguay's presidential election in April, defeating Blanca Ovelar, the ruling Colorado Party’s candidate. Lugo heads the Patriotic Alliance for Change, a diverse coalition including the conservative Authentic Radical Liberal Party and a dozen small left-wing groups. |
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Before entering politics, Lugo served as a Roman Catholic bishop in one of Paraguay's poorest areas. He has created high expectations of change by promising to tackle corruption and inequality.
Lugo tells Transparency Watch about corruption in his country and how he plans to fight it.
Transparency Watch (TW): Firstly, congratulations on your election and thank you for finding the time in your busy schedule to speak with Transparency Watch.
Fernando Lugo (FL): No, please. Thank you.
TW: Fighting corruption is obviously a very serious matter for many Paraguayans. In a pre-election poll conducted by the national civil society organisation CIRD, respondents placed corruption high on the list of priorities for the country’s next administration. How does corruption manifest itself in Paraguay?
FL: Corruption in Paraguay has many aspects. To number them would be an endless task. However, it is possible to establish its main axis. First, the misappropriation of public funds, which is not only a matter of inappropriately using resources destined for a specific purpose and diverting them to other areas, but simply appropriating them for personal benefit. On the other hand we have the “coíma” or bribe; a real “national institution,” which makes most administrative transactions, investments and development project proposals subject to the payment of a determined amount of money by the interested party for approval or analysis to be carried out. The culture of privilege and political clientilism are also manifestations of the epidemic that is corruption, against which we intend to fight until eliminating it from public administration.
I would, however, like to make clear that corruption has not only been fed or feasted upon by the public sector. The private sector has been an accomplice in this practice, in many cases forced to do so. Through this, the private sector simplified or even illicitly cheapened its cost of doing business.
TW: The fight against corruption cannot be won overnight. What do you expect to achieve during your five-year presidency?
FL: Completely eliminating corruption, which has turned into a cultural custom, will undoubtedly be a very difficult task, but it is not impossible. It is risky to declare that we will achieve a total elimination in five years of government, but I am sure that we will have defeated, if not completely, then at least corruption’s most grotesque and damaging manifestations.
TW: How do you plan to institutionalise the fight against corruption?
FL: First, as a basis, by auditing and establishing permanent controls by and within each of the government’s departments. Additionally, through the creation – which will be finalised at the appropriate time – of a National Anti-corruption Ministry, which will set the political and technical norms to elevate such a battle to the most institutionalised level possible.
TW: The people of Paraguay have high expectations and there is a great deal of pressure to show results. Considering that your coalition is the minority in Congress, will it not prove difficult to deliver on all your promises?
FL: First of all, let me tell you that the strength of a coalition is not measured by the number of members it has in Congress. Its internal coherence and its ability to negotiate with other factions, are determining factors during its legislative period. In other words, only through dialogue can consensus be reached to achieve authentic governability in the country, even when in possession of a majority of one’s own in the National Congress.
TW: During your time as bishop in San Pedro, one of Paraguay’s poorest regions, you earned the title ‘Bishop of the Poor’. Reducing poverty and inequality continue to be a priority for you. How do you intend to tackle these issues and do you believe that they are linked to corruption?
FL: The reduction of poverty and inequality are fundamental elements of our political platform. I would not have resigned from my position as bishop, nor would I have entered political life, had I not had the will to eradicate poverty and social inequality in my country. A complete agricultural reform and economic growth, coupled with social equity, are basic objectives of my government, and don’t doubt for a minute that we will establish the foundation to achieve this.
Although the causes of poverty and socio-economic inequality are structural, this makes it no less true that corruption has been a contributing factor to their worsening. Every public good that is diverted towards ends that are not contributing to economic growth and social development is an aggravating element of such damage.
TW: How do you plan to combat the trafficking of contraband goods in the country and what role do you expect Paraguay to play in fighting the problem at a regional level?
FL: Contraband is just one of many types of corruption, as is tax evasion and other issues. Strict control over the actions of elected officials working in import and export areas and the use of appropriate technological means to avoid all types of distortion will be our priority. Gradually, we will adjust the control mechanisms against this epidemic, which has been inherited from the previous disorder. On the regional level, our policy of control and the success that we expect through it, will be fundamental factors for a strong impact by Paraguay on the regional fight against contraband. This is not a one-sided battle. In order for goods and other products to enter or exit the country, both sides must cooperate. That is why talks and coordination with our neighbouring countries will be essential, as will controls on imports from more distant nations.
TW: In a recent interview with the Spanish newspaper El País, you mentioned plans to amend Paraguay’s constitution in 2009 “to guarantee the independence of the judiciary.” What changes do you deem necessary and why?
FL: Actually the methods [in place] to elect members of the Supreme Court of Justice and other courts require modification. This will, of course, be handled by the national congress firstly and finally by a National Constituting Convention assembled to reform the country’s constitution. There has to be a struggle for appointments that ensures the removal of political party influence from the judiciary, which in fact means for it to be made totally free from the influence of other state powers.
TW: Will you create an independent anti-corruption ombudsman?
FL: We’ve always understood an ombudsman to be a defender of the people, which already exists in our country. On the other hand, I mentioned the creation of a National Anti-Corruption Ministry. And as if that wasn’t enough, we already have a General Comptroller’s office. Therefore, we don’t see a need for designating an “independent anti-corruption ombudsman”.
TW: Paraguay shares the Itaipú hydroelectric dam with Brazil and the Yacyretá dam with Argentina, neither of which are presently subject to the internal control or supervision of state parties due to their bi-nationality. According to the World Bank's Independent Evaluation Group, this situation made it possible for the management of the Itaipú dam to allegedly operate a parallel account, resulting in an estimated US $2 billion (€1.46 billion) fraud. What can be done to avoid such cases of bad practice?
FL: It is public knowledge that not only this aspect but the entire basis of the general administration of both bi-national companies will be re-negotiated with our neighbours. We have already formed a special commission to assess all related aspects with Brazil and Argentina. In the framework of such negotiations, we will address these important matters.
TW: Are there other plans that you would like to share with us?
FL: No. I would just like to express the complete willingness of the Paraguayan government to take into account all plans, suggestions and experiences that can be brought to us regarding the fight against corruption in other countries. We are facing a problem that affects the entire world; we are not facing an exclusively Paraguayan issue. Therefore, the fight must be coordinated and requires close international solidarity.
Factbox: Paraguay
CPI Score (2007): 2.4
- Population: 6.1 million (UN, 2007)
- Capital: Asuncion
- Area: 406,752 sq km (157,048 sq miles)
- Major languages: Spanish, Guarani
- Major religion: Christianity
- Life expectancy: 70 years (men), 74 years (women) (UN)
- Monetary unit: 1 guarani = 100 centimos
- Main exports: Soyabeans, cotton, meat, edible oils, timber
GNI per capita: US $1,280 (World Bank, 2006)
- Source: BBC
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